Re: [NTLK] Newton Killer - OS X? - Longish

From: Laurent Daudelin (laurent.daudelin_at_verizon.net)
Date: Thu Sep 23 2004 - 22:03:31 PDT


on 23/09/04 23:57, Rod at lavo_at_mac.com wrote:

> On 24/9/04 2:44 AM, "James Nichols" <smilr_at_mac.com> wrote:
>
>> HUH? Do you mean waking from sleep mode?
>>
>> As far as I know pretty much every powerbook has had that - it's not
>> new to os X.
>>
>> J Tyler NIchols
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2004, at 6:08 AM, Roman Pixell wrote:
>>
>>> but its true, ever since the OS X entered the scene with the "instant
>>> wake-up" feature for powerbooks, the newton became less useful in
>>> compared to a laptop.
>
> Every Powerbook has had it, but pre-OSX there has been a 10-15 sec lag from
> the powerbook waking up to being useable. As OS X is constantly running
> when asleep (just a lot of services turned off to conserve power), it gives
> the illusion of being instantaneous wake up. In reality, it nevers goes to
> sleep, just switches off power to the screen, turns off unnecessary services
> and spins down the hd.

And what was the older Mac OS doing? Spinning down the hard disk? Turning
off the display? I think they're doing very similar things. One thing for
sure, processes are all halted when the Mac goes to sleep in OS X. Also, OS
X being based on Unix, I'm not sure that they can spin down the hard disk
and expect it to be off because the OS with virtual memory and such could
need the hard disk at any time. So, for all these reasons, I think that OS X
pretty much turn off everything, including the processor, hard disk, etc,
pretty much like the old Mac OS was doing. However, as I pointed out and as
somebody also pointed out, when AppleTalk is turned on on the old Mac OS, it
will take several seconds before you can start using the Mac, while on OS X,
it is instantaneous.

-Laurent.

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