From: Steve Weyer (saweyer_at_comcast.net)
Date: Fri Dec 05 2003 - 04:37:13 PST
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:16:00 -0800
> From: RAParker <RAParker_at_Quadzilla.NET>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Shell Access + www4mail.org = Surfing the web on
> your Ne
>
>
> A short time ago, Steve wrote:
>> fyi. before the days of NIE...email proxy...was (only?) to browse...
>> (and still supported in Newts Cape)
>
> hmmm...what's an email proxy?
>
not sure if this is the correct terminology. basically, you click on a
URL, and instead of contacting the host directly, Newt's Cape contacts
an intermediary server (or proxy) to handle the request. this can be a
mail-based service (like www4mail.org) or http: proxy.
here's some info about setting it up; for mail, you need to provide a
message pattern so that Newt's Cape knows how to format the URL into
the message subject or body.
http://home.comcast.net/~saweyer/newton/newtscape/docs/
userintf.htm#Proxy
> How does Newts Cape handle files/documents? Could it read HTML or MIME
> from a GoFetch Email? Could it read an attached GIF? Better yet,
> could it
> send a screen shot as a GIF attachment? Now that would be cool!
Newt's Cape can read HTML from messages in Inbox. File: Open Inbox.
on 2.x Newtons, it might be able to read GIF or JPEG files, though this
depends on how they're encoded/stored by the email client so that
Newt's Cape can then find them (as I recall, the last time I had
tested, it worked with SimpleMail; not sure about other clients).
> I find the notepad sort of limited in its ability to import only a
> page of
> text at a time before splitting the Note and having heap problems when
> selecting/moving. GoFetch seems to do really well reading files (inbox
> Soup) even with messages > 80K.
>
yep, Notepad rather limited. btw, if you do have HTML pages in Notepad
that you've created yourself or stored from email, you can read them
into Newt's Cape via File: Open Notes
if the email message (e.g., HTML page) gets split into multiple parts
because of size, Newt's Cape _may_ be able to chain the pieces
together. at least this worked at one time with Aloha.
>> as I recall, Pierre Omidyar(sp?) better known later as founder of
>> eBay,
>> started with a shareware service that served web pages via email.
>
>
> I did find references to webmail_at_ebay.com to be interesting, but I
> wonder
> if it still exists?
my docs indicate that it was no longer available a few years ago.
>
> www4mail.org appears to have a mission that will make it stick around
> for
> at least as long as email will be in use (forever?). With shell
> access to
> email servers, and www4mail, my Newton will always have a full
> inbox...very
> cool!
>
> Could Newts Cape and/or Sloup make my Newton even more useful? I would
> eventually like to backup or sync data over a dial up connection using
> shell scripts...future goals.
>
I don't think Sloup ever supported modem access, just regular serial
(and sometimes ADSP/AppleTalk). it was also possible to download data
via TCP by using Sloup as a plugin for Newt's Cape. but Sloup really
wasn't complete enough to handle real backup or sync -- you'd be better
off with some of the other data transfer tools.
> Thanks for your suggestions.
>
you're welcome!
> Ron
>
Steve
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